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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by Giselle
Girl, don't act dense. She's much more beloved now than she was in '08. |
And this.
But why are people acting like Obama demolished Clinton in the 2008 primaries? Like it was kinda close.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
1. Why was it hidden though, if you have nothing to hide. 
2. Um yes...make sure your facts are straight, so you don't end up with egg on your face.
3. I didn't know we were giving Kerry's accomplishment to Hillary now. 
4. Please...go read about how the Clinton Foundation has "helped" (or lack their of) the Hatian people...or the countless bribes, and deals that the Clinton Foundation got due to her being SOS.
5. No she's not...that's the only thing Hillary is really good at...pretending to be a liberal. She has no true political philosophy...just takes positions that are politically advantageous. |
Someone has been watching a lot of Sean Hannity. I recommend you intake your news from various biased and non-biased sources before you so inaccurately present your opinions as facts.
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
1. Didn't realize the mom and pop store was the problem here. And so far, no evidence that Clinton was hacked, unlike the state department, the dept of defense, etc. Also, Cheney deleted 22 MILLION and turned over ZERO. Clinton deleted 30k personal and turned over 55k emails.
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So two wrongs make a right? Is that your defense? She deleted 30 emails you have no idea if they were personal or not, were you there? Was there State Department oversight when these emails were deleted or are you a just unable to think critically?
2. The CIA told the white house it was because of a video, so they said it was because of a video. Was Hillary and Obama supposed to contradict the CIA? And why is this such a big deal when they've already caught the people who did it?
No the CIA did not say that, their talking points were not that it was a video. CIA Deputy Director Mike Morell testified definitively that the Agency never produced intelligence that the attack was due to a video.
3. It got Russia to go along with Iran sanctions along with China. You can thank Clinton, Kerry and Obama for delaying what would have been an inevitable Iranian Nuclear weapon.
And weakened our allies in Europe. Ukraine anyone? We gave up on a missile shield, for a few years of sanctions on Iran who is going to cheat anyway on the nuke deal.
4. The millions funneled into the foundation (an organization for good) were going there before Clinton was at State. Bill Clinton is a likable guy with a good foundation. The foundation has: negotiated lower AIDS/HIV drug prices for 10 million people, planned healthier lunch menus at 30,000 schools across America, and total contributions to the foundation are expected to benefit over 430 million of the poorest people around the World.
Right how much of that foundation money do they keep vs that which goes out to charity?
Between 2011 and 2013, the organization spent only 9.9 percent of the $252 million it collected on direct charitable grants.
Essentially it is a slush fund for the Clintons to fund salaries, travel, and conferences.
5. Elizabeth Warren is unelectable on the national stage, as is Bernie Sanders. Fact is, Hillary Clinton is more liberal than Obama, Biden, Kerry and Gore. She is the best shot actual liberals have of a liberal president.
Pure fantasy. It's like you never looked at her past and what she has supported.
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I'm sorry but the fact that you basically copied and pasted that from the National Review directly goes with what I was saying to you when you I first started this thread - all you do is post Fox News-esque talking points  God, you are all the same. That 9.9% is the percentage they donated to other charities. It doesn't take into account the in-house charity they do.
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Originally posted by Chucko
So two wrongs make a right? Is that your defense? She deleted 30 emails you have no idea if they were personal or not, were you there? Was there State Department oversight when these emails were deleted or are you a just unable to think critically?
2. The CIA told the white house it was because of a video, so they said it was because of a video. Was Hillary and Obama supposed to contradict the CIA? And why is this such a big deal when they've already caught the people who did it?
No the CIA did not say that, their talking points were not that it was a video. CIA Deputy Director Mike Morell testified definitively that the Agency never produced intelligence that the attack was due to a video.
3. It got Russia to go along with Iran sanctions along with China. You can thank Clinton, Kerry and Obama for delaying what would have been an inevitable Iranian Nuclear weapon.
And weakened our allies in Europe. Ukraine anyone? We gave up on a missile shield, for a few years of sanctions on Iran who is going to cheat anyway on the nuke deal.
4. The millions funneled into the foundation (an organization for good) were going there before Clinton was at State. Bill Clinton is a likable guy with a good foundation. The foundation has: negotiated lower AIDS/HIV drug prices for 10 million people, planned healthier lunch menus at 30,000 schools across America, and total contributions to the foundation are expected to benefit over 430 million of the poorest people around the World.
Right how much of that foundation money do they keep vs that which goes out to charity?
Between 2011 and 2013, the organization spent only 9.9 percent of the $252 million it collected on direct charitable grants.
Essentially it is a slush fund for the Clintons to fund salaries, travel, and conferences.
5. Elizabeth Warren is unelectable on the national stage, as is Bernie Sanders. Fact is, Hillary Clinton is more liberal than Obama, Biden, Kerry and Gore. She is the best shot actual liberals have of a liberal president.
Pure fantasy. It's like you never looked at her past and what she has supported.
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Never said two wrongs make a right. The difference between Clinton and Cheney is that one turned over emails, the other deleted them and obstructed justice. Clinton has also turned over her entire served. Cheney did not. Cheney also recently went on a book tour criticizing Hillary about the emails Talk about irony.
You've been watching too much Fox News, dear. The intelligence community actually did believe the videos had something to do with the attack. They were wrong, but that's what they told the White House and the State Dept.
Weakened allies in Europe? No. The world has a more favorable view of America thanks to the Obama years:
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And in one breath Republicans will talk about weaker ties with Europe, while in the other breath complaining about how we depend on working with France on Libya, or with Europeans on tackling the Iran issue. Give me a break.
That 9.9% number isn't even accurate. It's more like 15%, and that's because the 85% listed for overhead goes towards specific organizations within the foundation like the Health Initiative, Climate initiative, etc, that all do work on policy and partnerships. The "travel on private jets" crap, again, is just false. source source
It's not fantasy. I have the receipts. Clinton at #13th most liberal is more liberal than Durbin and Kerry, and less liberal than Sanders and a few others. Joe Biden is way behind at #27 and Obama at #18
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I can assure you that when the NSA placed Germany on the same surveillance level as North Korea, we lost all respect for the US.. also their economic espionage on Germany, France and the EU in general didn't help popularize them here.
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also demanding the EU to impose sanctions on Russia while the US itself is increasing trade with Russia is a fact Europeans have long realized.
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Who will you stan for? 
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Originally posted by L/\DY G/\G/\
Someone has been watching a lot of Sean Hannity. I recommend you intake your news from various biased and non-biased sources before you so inaccurately present your opinions as facts.
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I don't watch Sean Hannity... I watch Megyn Kelly...get it right, bitch! 
So we're supposed to give Hillary a pass just because?
@Giselle... CBS, NBC, and ABC have been covering Hillary's emails, the attacks on the Libyan consulate, and the Clinton Foundation whilst Hillary was SOS as well...so their all in the conspiracy theories too? Please... y'all are trying to put a rose on a cabbage...but it's still a cabbage. 
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Originally posted by stevyy
I can assure you that when the NSA placed Germany on the same surveillance level as North Korea, we lost all respect for the US.. also their economic espionage on Germany, France and the EU in general didn't help popularize them here.
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And Germany's miserable migrant policy sure hasn't helped their standing in the European Union or abroad either.
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Originally posted by stevyy
I can assure you that when the NSA placed Germany on the same surveillance level as North Korea, we lost all respect for the US.. also their economic espionage on Germany, France and the EU in general didn't help popularize them here.
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Originally posted by stevyy
also demanding the EU to impose sanctions on Russia while the US itself is increasing trade with Russia is a fact Europeans have long realized.
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I wasn't saying Obama/Clinton did nothing wrong. Just saying that the relationship overall is much better than the Bush years. I mean, they got the Europeans to go along with the Russian sanctions, right?
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Originally posted by LuLuDrops
Who will you stan for?
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none tbh
but fiorina
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3. I didn't know we were giving Kerry's accomplishment to Hillary now.
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The nuclear deal was brokered under Kerry, but the sanctions were imposed under Hillary.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
I don't watch Sean Hannity... I watch Megyn Kelly...get it right, bitch!
So we're supposed to give Hillary a pass just because?
@Giselle... CBS, NBC, and ABC have been covering Hillary's emails, the attacks on the Libyan consulate, and the Clinton Foundation whilst Hillary was SOS as well...so their all in the conspiracy theories too? Please... y'all are trying to put a rose on a cabbage...but it's still a cabbage. |
Save it. Like I said, TikiMiss was posting facts with receipts. You, again, were posting conspiracy theories and republican molehills turned into mountains. And I'm not even gonna justify it.
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All of this fighting calm down guys 
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Originally posted by L/\DY G/\G/\
And Germany's miserable migrant policy sure hasn't helped their standing in the European Union or abroad either.
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u mean not shooting at migrants like hungary and slovenia are doing, right? yeah, how messy indeed.
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Mike Huckabee. i cant with him only running for president to promlte his books.
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Member Since: 8/3/2010
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Mike Huckabee. i cant with him only running for president to promlte his books. |
It's better than Bobby Jindal or Pataki running just wasting our time because they aren't even trying. I'm definitely open to voting Republican (it's my first time in eligible to vote!) but I need to see real candidates
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