Originally posted by OreGuy You're in ATRL too, you're here to let the time pass by. Don't contradict yourself EDIT: And that is coming with someone who's been here for a long time and with 3,693, and you're saying he/she is just wasting her/his time?

Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚ You didn't have to read or entered this thread at all, you know that right? Posting threads like this are way better than spending the same amount of time hating and wishing death upon popstars

Originally posted by Percivalx Some of you don't get the point of my post. The point is to move on from this mess of an era. The Gaga fans are so adamant about how this era could have been saved if things had been done differently. Nothing could have been done differently with this material. No matter what song would have been released first, second, or third. No matter what video she should have shot. Or whatever. The material was NOT GOOD ENOUGH. And yet some Gaga fans are stuck on the idea that she would have smashed if things were done differently with the material from this album. You know what should have been done...Something different from Gaga. Something fresh and new. With ARTPOP, Gaga gave us the same old EDM stuff. So I'm not judging at how long a post is. I'm judging at the fact that some of you can't face the fact Gaga flopped this era. And the fact that new, fresh sounding material would have been the key to a successful era.

It's simply perfect.

But we KNOW that the Gaga flopped/underperformed this era. Only the most extra monsters are denying that she flopped/are thinking that Gaga could easily turn things around.

There's nothing wrong with your opinion, and there's a lot of people who agree with you tbh. But there's also nothing wrong with my opinion either, and there's people that agree with me. I only have a problem with how you seem to be forcing your opinion as fact. I'm not saying "the era definitely would've smashed this way", or "ARTPOP would've been incredibly successful this way and there's no way you can deny it". I'm saying "I believe that the ARTPOP era would've been successful this way", or "I think if things went this way, Gaga would've smashed". The music industry and the GP's taste is so fluid and fickle, so it could've gone either way. My plans could've lead the album to sell less than it actually did, or it could've helped ARTPOP sell double it's current total. Obviously there's no way to know what would've happened, but I don't think it's a bad thing for me to say what I think.

I don't know that much about WW promotional spots, so I decided to leave them out. but yeah, "Appause" defo could've benefited from WW promo, especially in Australia/mainland Europe.

Oh, and in this plan, the KIA commercial would still be airing in September/October. But I just bunched it together with the other 2 endorsements.

Also, to those saying "oh "Venus" would've flopped, would've been disastrous, etc, etc.", while I believe the song would've done moderately well, if it did flop, they could've rushed up the release of "Do What U Want" to late December/early January.

Originally posted by Percivalx Some of you don't get the point of my post. The point is to move on from this mess of an era. The Gaga fans are so adamant about how this era could have been saved if things had been done differently. Nothing could have been done differently with this material. No matter what song would have been released first, second, or third. No matter what video she should have shot. Or whatever. The material was NOT GOOD ENOUGH. And yet some Gaga fans are stuck on the idea that she would have smashed if things were done differently with the material from this album. You know what should have been done...Something different from Gaga. Something fresh and new. With ARTPOP, Gaga gave us the same old EDM stuff. So I'm not judging at how long a post is. I'm judging at the fact that some of you can't face the fact Gaga flopped this era. And the fact that new, fresh sounding material would have been the key to a successful era.

mess.

I really didn't wanna overestimate it tbh. How did some other "controversial" VMA songs debut on the Hot 100 following their respective performances?

I agree, for the most part. Obviously it didn't do THAT well in WW (mostly due to a lack of promo), but it did great here in the States, and still went top 10 in nearly 30 countries.