Originally posted by Monster Boy

Albums WW:

52 +35 Lady GaGa - The Fame Monster
53 -3 Lady Gaga - ARTPOP

Originally posted by Dream

I think the problem people have with Madonna is what she's putting out at age 55. Sure, call it ageist. If a 20-something released an album like MDNA and songs like "Girl Gone Wild", nobody would give two *****. But the fact is, at 55, people expect you to release music with more substance. Is that ageist? I guess so...

Imagine if Madonna released an album a la Ray of Light a couple years ago. Maybe not as good but dealt with the same subject matters. Or even a more mature dance album like COADF. Nobody would be deriding her for being 55. In fact people would be praising her for being 55 and still kicking ass.

Originally posted by Dream

But are they going to know that the song has been #1 for 10 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100? Nope. They're just going to think, "damn that song is everywhere!" And they can think that about a song that is not top 10 or even top 20.

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

No one would have even listened to GGW if it was by a 20-something. It's such a low quality try-hard dance track

Originally posted by LoveTheWayILie

She has plenty of respect from the new generation of musicians. Literally any new generation pop girl you can name and even some alternatives name her as an influence. If you want to talk about Respect than Janet is not a legend since I never hear her name unless a nipple joke is necesary, I only knew about her cuz new pop stars of my childhood like Britney kept mentioning her as an influence so I looked her up. Same for Michale since before he died only the new generation like Usher and Chris Brown and respected him but to the GP he was a washed up pedophile joke. Whitney was a crack joke before she died and now Madonna is a joke for being a washed up pop star who doesn't act her age but again the respect and influence on the new generation of pop stars is present.

Originally posted by Space Renegade

Wow Katy didn't win any awards at the KCA's?!

She's slipping in her own niche now

Originally posted by Damien M

Britney Spears will never be a legend, putting her in the same sentence as Elvis is just BEYOND.
She's a female Sean Paul at best (relevant from 00 to 04) with a bit more staying power.

Originally posted by Cap10Planet

You can go back to the discussion last night where I said that Mariah should continue to release music BUT she shouldn't focus on massive success or think she will be reaching the pinnacles of success she once did. It's NOT happening, ever again. Same for Madonna.

And sorry if it's ageist to think that Madonna looks a fool by collaborating with LMFAO just so she can seem "cool" to the younger audience or Mariah looking desperate for a 2005-type comeback by collaborating with tacky, rent-a-rappers over beats that are even dated for 2005. Embrace your age and be comfortable with the impact you have left over the years. I'll wear my ageist title proudly, thank you.

Originally posted by FAME.

They are not talking about singlez n chartz~
They are talking about overall starpower, impact, success

Originally posted by MrPeanut

Right, but the point is that the charts serve as a reflection and measurement of that popularity.

It doesn't matter that the public is unaware of a song's chart stats any more than the public's ignorance of a retailer's internal sales data has bearing on that retailer's industry ranking.

Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn

Sean Paul is a LEGEND. Don't disrespect him like that
Plus She Doesn't Mind was a huge WW hit in 2012

Originally posted by FAME.

This is so far beyond false I can't even
Never mind the fact that CB and Usher don't even belong to the same generation.

Originally posted by rbautz

It's kind of tragic for her, first Cheerleader and now Femdom. What's next? *Necrophilia schtick?