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Poll: Has Ariana taken over Demi and Selena?
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View Poll Results: has she?
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
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Originally posted by 4seldemari
Not when Put Your Hearts Up was Ariana's first try 
You still ignored the fact that Selena has longevity. |
PYHU was unpromoted and not sent to radio, so by that logic it took Selena over TEN tries to get a top 20 single counting songs like Tell Me Something I Don't Know, Magic, and whatever the theme song for Wizards of Waverly Place was.
Ariana has longevity also, hence why she got a multiplatinum hit on her first swing at bat while it took years of promotion, touring, and publicized relationships for others to get one!
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Originally posted by 4seldemari
Not when Put Your Hearts Up was Ariana's first try
You still ignored the fact that Selena has longevity.
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We don't talk about that. 
A bit of a sidenote, I love her teams thought process on that. "If we delete it from the internet without saying anything, no one will remember" nnnn, what kind of Beyonce superbowl photo teas. 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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It's time we stop putting Ariana in the same category as Demi and Class Icon Selena Gomez. Ariana is moving up with the likes of Beyonce, Xtina, and Whitney Houston.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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If we compare their debut albums she is basically doing it faster than Demi and Selena on the states:
Don't Forget era - no top forty hits, no hit singles afterall, songs sold well anyway, album is gold
Kiss & Tell era - one top forty hit, one hit overall single, album is around 950k last time i checked
Yours Truly era - two top forty hits, one hit single afterall ("Baby I" stayed only one week in the top forty and sold almost the same as "Right There" it isn't a hit afterall and it sold less then most singles from "Don't Forget" which failed to crack the top forty.) Album is around 424k (?)
She did mostly the same on her first era like Demi's firsera (just go on check the single sales) And She did similar to Selena first era too. I think she already passed Demi right now if we compare their las era's and is cominhg for Selena i guess.
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Originally posted by fanboyn8
Ariana is on par with Demi, but she'll never reach Selena's level. Selena is not only a successful artist, she's also relevant when it comes to the media, Ariana doesn't have that and idt she ever will. If Selena were to release a single right now, I guarantee you it would debut way behind Problem, but in the long run, would end up outselling it. Just how Selena works, she has never been a front-loader.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
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US Sales:
Yours Truly - 424,000
DEMI - 364,000
Stars Dance - 354,000
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Originally posted by Sasha Pieterse
To be fair (and I'm a Demi fan too), DF was released in... what, 2008? When sales were bigger. She was also way bigger at that time as it was released following Camp Rock and she was associated with Jonas Brothers who were absolutely massive back then. The fact that Yours Truly, an album that was released last year, is only, what, 100k copies behind DF (and still selling) is remarkable.
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and currently Top 30 on iTunes! Already having longevity on her side aaahhh 
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Originally posted by Luke.
US Sales:
Yours Truly - 424,000
DEMI - 364,000
Stars Dance - 260,000
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But don't those two albums have "multiple hits11!!"?
and she didn't even promote outside of the US besides Japan...where she SMASHED
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Originally posted by 4seldemari
Naturally is 3x platinum hun. That was in 2009-2010 after her first album with the Scene. If you don't want me to include the Scene I could just say Come & Get It was her first try as a solo artist.
It took Come & Get It about 3 months not over a year |
It took over 6 years for Naturally to get certified multiplatinum (including streams too, screaming)
And I was talking about LYLALS being her first single to be certified multiplatinum but keep up I guess.
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She's taken over Demi, and is coming for Selena's wig.
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What it all comes down to is that Demi and Selena have 4+ years on Ariana in the industry, and they were both main girls over at Disney, whereas Ariana wasn't even the star of Victorious, and she still outsold their latest albums. Not WW, because she's not that established yet (plus she's not doing an awful lot of promo. Didn't she visit the UK once and spent some time in Japan? Wow much promo), but she's currently slaying them in the US, which is the main market.
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Originally posted by Luke.
US Sales:
Yours Truly - 424,000
DEMI - 364,000
Stars Dance - 354,000
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Welp.
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Didn't Ariana also get a #1 album on her first try while it took YEARS for others to achieve one? Correct me if I am wrong.
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Originally posted by Luke.
US Sales:
Yours Truly - 424,000
DEMI - 364,000
Stars Dance - 354,000
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Originally posted by Luke.
US Sales:
Yours Truly - 424,000
DEMI - 364,000
Stars Dance - 354,000
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shall we compare debut album sales? or WW sales of these respective eras?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Ariana Grande
We don't talk about that.
A bit of a sidenote, I love her teams thought process on that. "If we delete it from the internet without saying anything, no one will remember" nnnn, what kind of Beyonce superbowl photo teas.
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Why do hate the song so much. Its not that bad.
The MV is atrocious & basic though.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by YeaBey4ever
Her singles were handled poorly and the era ended rather quickly but let's live for now where Ari is currently charting in the Top 10 on iTunes in more countries than Demi or Selena (?) ever have. Or how YT outsold Demi's 1st album WW in far less time or how quickly radio embraced Ariana or how grown folks aren't ashamed to like her bc she doesn't make a plethora of cheesy pop songs that sound like rehashes of past hits.
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Originally posted by fanboyn8
shall we compare debut album sales? or WW sales of these respective eras? |
You mean albums released 4-5 years ago when they were already big stars, compared to Ariana's debut which was released not even a year ago, when she was still relatively unknown to the gp? 
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Originally posted by minxie
PYHU was unpromoted and not sent to radio, so by that logic it took Selena over TEN tries to get a top 20 single counting songs like Tell Me Something I Don't Know, Magic, and whatever the theme song for Wizards of Waverly Place was.
Ariana has longevity also, hence why she got a multiplatinum hit on her first swing at bat while it took years of promotion, touring, and publicized relationships for others to get one!
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Falling Down and A Year Without Rain weren't sent to radio either. Hit the Lights was left in dust. Tell Me Something I Don't Know wasn't her single nor was Magic (not the theme song). They were for promotion. By that logic, you wanna count Send It On which peaked at #20?
Where you getting 10 from? It's not all about peak positions either. Like I said, look at the sales in the long run...
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It's too early to tell. Let's wait if her single is popular WW.
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Originally posted by fanboyn8
Ariana is on par with Demi, but she'll never reach Selena's level. Selena is not only a successful artist, she's also relevant when it comes to the media, Ariana doesn't have that and idt she ever will. If Selena were to release a single right now, I guarantee you it would debut way behind Problem, but in the long run, would end up outselling it. Just how Selena works, she has never been a front-loader.
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@ you acting like Selena is on some Miley Cyrus type **** that Ariana will never reach her level when in actuality Selena is only generating media attention because of her on and off bad boy beau Justin Bieber and her rehab stint
Ariana is far from front loaded if anything Selena is because her single has only sold ~300k more than The Way despite peaking higher on the Hot 100, having more than 5 performances, more video views and peaking at #2 on Pop radio
And lets not forget Ariana's album selling more despite being fairly unknown compared to Selena and her lead single not being as big
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