Of course. It'd be a different situation altogether...unless you're trying to imply that she would have flopped...

How could anyone know the definitive answer to that?

So now we can't analyze and discuss music from different angles and scenarios because said event didn't actually take place? There are plenty of "what if" and hypothetical posts that are created and allowed to stay up all day long. It's fine for you to have a favorite artist but it's lame when people start to stifle conversation because it doesn't always lead to yet another praise post.

It's literally her only single without a single cringeworthy lyric. And it's miles above the rest of her catalog.

true but no one knows what would have happened. because it didn't happen. and we will never know. oh well
the BEYONCÉ era remains extremely successful

I think if Beyoncé went with a traditional release she would have a #1 song & would have sold more albums.

"Why can't she get another #1?" is such a redundant question, especially when she just got another top 10 hit when people doubted her and her album sales have been awesome - as if not getting a #1 takes away from what she has accomplished this era. It did seem like a troll thread.

I mean, was 2013 a bad year for Bey????? What are the signs that she would have flopped?

Girl, shut up.

I mean, there's a difference between saying "her album wouldn't have sold 800k first week" and "she would have flopped had she released normally".

One is a fair assessment grounded in historical evidence and the other is wishful thinking.

We're back to "overshot" criticism.

how much is it discounted there

How is it redundant when it's actually a reasonable question to ask? Since when did number two suddenly become number one and accepted as such? And no one is taking away from this era in her music by asking why an admittedly successful album can't also produce successful #1 charting singles given the hype surrounding it.

Probably! She would have sold 600k copies of DIL and then when her album dropped, 800k.

Ya!

Especially with a full week of sales!

McKiiii seethes everyday for selling her soul for a couple million. she literally gave Katy Teenage Dream.

It's one of definitely Katy's best songs. I can agree on that.

Are most of these posts in here about Katy's lyrics trolling? Every artist has a few songs with lyrics that someone might think are bad. Roar is dragged all the time in here but it actually has lyrics that are really meaningful to some people (like people with actual life experience and stuff).

Right, it would have sold so much more if she had released it using the conventional strategy. Everyone would have hyped it up more than just a "surprise album." DIL would be even more iconic.

I still don't see why no one stands for Pretty Hurts. It's the most radio-friendly song imo.

Girl what? Weren't you just talking about how the Beyhive can't accept when their fave isn't the best at everything? So when they say #2 is enough for them, suddenly it's not ok?

Do you not see how people like you perpetrate these negative stan interactions? Just say you want to troll and call it good. There's no shame in it. It's what this forum is all about. But don't try to pass it off as some sort of intellectual discourse.

Kelis her album Flesh Tone kinda ***** on your favorite albums