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Harmonic Dreamer

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Originally posted by MrPeanut

Nothing else on RAM had commercial potential, though. And they didn't promote, did they?

You may as well stop trying.
It will never be enough.

The album sells 618k in 3 days... "BUT SHE HAS NO HITS!!! GP WON'T REMEMBER HER!!! She needs hits!"
One of the songs debuts at #12... "BUT SHE HAS NO LONGEVITY!!! Even though the sells are good no longevity!"

Like girl if you don't shut the hell up. She sliced, slayed, slaughtered in 10 damn days.
Shut up and let things just work out then try to drag. We don't know what's planned because it hasn't even been a full month yet. Not everything is instant and if it is, it tends to fall of quicker anyway. I'm all for the singles having a slow start. The album selling is a given. It's Bey...

MrPeanut

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Originally posted by Kworb

Neither does anything else on BEYONCÉ. And no they didn't, but the effect of promo on album sales is negligible. The promo only helps if it kick starts a hit single, which then in turn drives album sales.

I think there are potential urban hits.

Damien M

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Originally posted by Kworb

Neither does anything else on BEYONCÉ. And no they didn't, but the effect of promo on album sales is negligible. The promo only helps if it kick starts a hit single, which then in turn drives album sales.

Promo is overrated
P!nk's era had like 5 performances in total, across the globe and look how well that sold.
Some songs are just meant to be hits, others aren't

Ozzy8923

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Originally posted by Damien M

Promo is overrated
P!nk's era had like 5 performances in total, across the globe and look how well that sold.
Some songs are just meant to be hits, others aren't

Good point.

But Try was a big hit in Europe and JGMAR was even bigger so that really carried Pink's album globally.

BlueTimberwolf

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Originally posted by Damien M

Promo is overrated
P!nk's era had like 5 performances in total, across the globe and look how well that sold.
Some songs are just meant to be hits, others aren't

Too bad Bey has no hits on that album

MrPeanut

Obv hit singles are the best promo available.

Kworb

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Originally posted by MrPeanut

I think there are potential urban hits.

Exactly, the album could end up like 4. Only some urban hits that the rest of the world (and most of the US) is unaware of.

Jennifer

Pink and Bruno slaying. The publics taste is so awful.

Jennifer

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Originally posted by Kworb

Exactly, the album could end up like 4. Only some urban hits that the rest of the world (and most of the US) is unaware of.

If the album sells 4 million WW, which is basically a guarantee at this point, then its already a massive success. Only the top albums are doing those numbers.

satellites.™

Um Pink had more than 5 performances, dont play with me.

2012 VMAs (best promo ever for a pop artist)
Ellen Show
Alan Carr
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart

X Factor Australia (HUGE for her)
2012 American Music Awards (second best promo spot in the US for pop artist)
Wetten, dass..? (HUGE in Germany)

Drais.

Kworb still hasn't learned yet? You can't compare Beyoncé to these other artists or releases.

MrPeanut

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Originally posted by Kworb

Exactly, the album could end up like 4. Only some urban hits that the rest of the world (and most of the US) is unaware of.

It already feels like much more of an event than the entire 4 era.

Kworb

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Originally posted by Jennifer

If the album sells 4 million WW, which is basically a guarantee at this point, then its already a massive success. Only the top albums are doing those numbers.

That only puts her a little bit above Unapologetic. To say that "with this album she became a legend" or "she has completely slayed all the other girls" it'll need to do a lot better, at least outsell TTAL and Red.

MrPeanut

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Originally posted by satellites.™

Um Pink had more than 5 performances, dont play with me.

Not like you can blame him if he forgot some.

Vin

The second coming of the best pop performer of our generation has come.

...Vin

MrPeanut

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Originally posted by Kworb

That only puts her a little bit above Unapologetic. To say that "with this album she became a legend" or "she has completely slayed all the other girls" it'll need to do a lot better, at least outsell TTAL and Red.

That talk is fueled in part by all the critical acclaim, though.

Kworb

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Originally posted by MrPeanut

It already feels like much more of an event than the entire 4 era.

The 4 era was a huge event as well because of Blue Ivy. It's the lack of hits that now make it feel like it was nothing.

Harmonic Dreamer

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Originally posted by Kworb

That only puts her a little bit above Unapologetic. To say that "with this album she became a legend" or "she has completely slayed all the other girls" it'll need to do a lot better, at least outsell TTAL and Red.

Who the **** really cares if it outsells a rinky dink Rihanna alber?
4 already did what was comparable to that without a hit vs a WW #1 with 10 weeks there.
IDGI.

Ozzy8923

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Originally posted by satellites.™

Um Pink had more than 5 performances, dont play with me.

I think it's the AMA's, VMA's, Allan Carr, and Ellen from what I recall.

Pink is pretty huge in Germany judging from Funhouse's success there and obviously she's massive in Australia so in those places it seems like it sold based off of the strength of the album's singles.

So yeah her promo campaign was light.

Nicole

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Originally posted by satellites.™

Um Pink had more than 5 performances, dont play with me.

She had more than 5 but her promo was light. She did it all in 2012 and her album came out in September so the promo window was small.

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FINALLY finished Wolf of Wall Street, good Lord! VERY entertaining but a little too long and so loud, so over the top and so excessive that at times it felt draining. Excess is what the movie is about, but my God.