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Poll: Avril v Pink v Xtina v Kelly.. More iconic??
View Poll Results: Who's More Iconic?
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Avril Lavigne
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39 |
17.33% |
Pink
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57 |
25.33% |
Christina Aguilera
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84 |
37.33% |
Kelly Clarkson
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45 |
20.00% |
Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Sporefan
Yeah, Let Go, Under My Skin & The Best Damn Things are all flop and sold less than Carrie's album globally
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Bringing up an artist that wasn't mentioned. Surely slaying the argument
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Originally posted by Grin Toll
Christina obviously, Avril is a close second
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It's nice to see that some of you people are honest at least
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Member Since: 3/28/2008
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Originally posted by QueenCarrie
Bringing up an artist that wasn't mentioned. Surely slaying the argument
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Isn't Carrie Under Kelly's Shadow from AI too? I used her to do a comparison between Kelly and Carrie
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Originally posted by QueenCarrie
Well...
Avril is irrelevant both musically and as a celebrity
Pink is doing very well with her music, but she's not a very talked about artist (which can be a good thing)
Christina is struggling to find the same success with her music as she once had, but she's talked about
Kelly gets one hit per album and gets a decent amount of media attention
So... Musically, I'd say Pink, but as far as fame goes, I'd probably go with Christina. Kelly could sneak in there too tbh but I don't know if she's done anything iconic... Breakaway was a huge era for her, but I'm not sure if she actually got anything iconic out of it?
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You might not know much about algebra but i hope you know 17mil(Let Go) > 12mil (Breakaway)
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Originally posted by Sporefan
Isn't Carrie Under Kelly's Shadow from AI too? I used her to do a comparison between Kelly and Carrie
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Yass, mentioning Let Go, Under My Skin & The Best Damn Things as a Kelly comparison. Must've missed those hit albums by her
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Originally posted by Sporefan
You might not know much about algebra but i hope you know 17mil(Let Go) > 12mil (Breakaway)
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I didn't know sales are everything, sweetcheeks. Iconic doesn't necessarily mean whatever sold the most, I answered from my own perspective. To me, Avril is more irrelevant musically than Kelly. Don't take it so seriously, sis.
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Originally posted by QueenCarrie
Yass, mentioning Let Go, Under My Skin & The Best Damn Things as a Kelly comparison. Must've missed those hit albums by her
I didn't know sales are everything, sweetcheeks. Iconic doesn't necessarily mean whatever sold the most, I answered from my own perspective. To me, Avril is more irrelevant musically than Kelly. Don't take it so seriously, sis.
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I didn't said Sales are everything.
But how is Avril IRRELEVANT musically, explain.
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Originally posted by Sporefan
I didn't said Sales are everything.
But how is Avril IRRELEVANT musically, explain.
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She's only had three top 10 singles (two of them were only in Canada) since 2007, two of which didn't really leave a big mark. Sure, her debut was impressive and she was big during her Let Go era (and Girlfriend was everywhere), but imo that's not even close to the level of Pink and Kelly, hit wise.
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Originally posted by QueenCarrie
She's only had three top 10 singles (two of them were only in Canada) since 2007, two of which didn't really leave a big mark. Sure, her debut was impressive and she was big during her Let Go era (and Girlfriend was everywhere), but imo that's not even close to the level of Pink and Kelly, hit wise.
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Aren't hits based on SALES?
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Originally posted by Sporefan
Aren't hits based on SALES?
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Not only.
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Kelly will forever been known as the Original American Idol She's not more iconic than the others though, she's not really an icon, but she's the epitome for an exceptional singer.
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Originally posted by gotintoririfever1
#oops no one even knew she sold that much
too bad those albums didn't produced even one career defining song for her (Lady Marmalade not included)
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Get The Party Started and So what though.
If those albums didn't produce any career defining songs, why has GHSF sold more than Bionic and Lotus combined?
And we shouldn't forget that Beatiful wouldn't even exist without Get The Party Started.
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Member Since: 8/27/2011
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Originally posted by Addicted_
Avril's last huge era was in 2002, and her last top 10 was in 2007.
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And? we are talking about being iconic
That's like if you say me that Michael jackson last hit was many years ago because he is dead
does it make him less iconic? No
kelly is not iconic, I like her a lot, but she isn't at all. Avril is
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Originally posted by sd93
HAHAHA SERIOUSLY? People DID check Pink's earlier discography, hence why M!ssundaztood sold over 13 million copies and I'm Not Dead AND Funhouse sold over 7 million copies each. And people are STILL buying her albums. Unlike Christina. Has Lotus even sold over 1 million worldwide yet?
Even Pink's flop album, Try This, sold more than Bionic and Lotus combined. You tried.
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Hahhaa someone seriously reported this? Facts are facts. Stay pressed
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You know i always wondered WHAT IS THIS ICONIC THING ATRL TALKS ABOUT?
Everyone just sais MY FAVE IS ICONIC!
You know what's iconic? P!nk's performances (finally something someone did, that is not based on what Madonna already did before), which inspired Katy Perry's god awful but brave Wide Awake performence!
You know what else is Iconic? GTPS! It is one of the most known party songs in the world easily!
You know what is iconic? So What! the expression "So What" has triggered some people i know who don't necessarily like P!nk to sing the song's chorus!
You know what's iconic? Me intantly making everyone around me praise P!nk by just showing them her Grammy performance hence my username P!nksim coz my family sais it's like i am preaching a religion!
Oh hey how about her finding Linda Perry and writing an album with her, when everyone was like Who is Linda, why are you working with that one hit wonder? And after her success some other artists started working with her too!
How about her live vocals being a defining moment for Adele? (25.000 000 albums sold)
And how about stil having a carreer after almost 15 years, and slaying without any effort and breaking records during her tours?
OK THANK YOU VERY MUCH
bye
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Originally posted by Rolland
Christina's peak was bigger. She has been mentioned as a big influence for a lot of singers who came after her. She will always have Beautiful, which is far more memorable than any Pink past songs or recent hits, let's not even talk about Kelly or Avril. Even though she is not experiencing commercial success right now, she is regularly talked and is respected among her peers and general public, and is also identified as one of the greatest singers of all time, even if she doesn't sing as she used to.
I have never said she is currently getting more success than Pink, or the other two. But iconic status takes more than only sales. Pink is a special case, we could argue all day long about why even though she is recently getting more success than Christina, Britney and Beyoncé still fails to reach their status. But of course as the deluded stan that you are you will just reduce the response to a: "the delusion is just too much to take". Nothing will happen to Pink's career if someone doesn't agree with your opinion.
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Writing half an essay is not gonna give you any credibility.
The fact that you think Xtina,an artist whose latest music failed to reach any commercial success whatsoever is more relevant than P!nk,an artist who will have her third consecutive 6 million seller by the end of the year, who is on another soon to be 200m + worlwide tour is nothing but delusional.
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Originally posted by P!nkism
You know i always wondered WHAT IS THIS ICONIC THING ATRL TALKS ABOUT?
Everyone just sais MY FAVE IS ICONIC!
You know what's iconic? P!nk's performances (finally something someone did, that is not based on what Madonna already did before), which inspired Katy Perry's god awful but brave Wide Awake performence!
You know what else is Iconic? GTPS! It is one of the most known party songs in the world easily!
You know what is iconic? So What! the expression "So What" has triggered some people i know who don't necessarily like P!nk to sing the song's chorus!
You know what's iconic? Me intantly making everyone around me praise P!nk by just showing them her Grammy performance hence my username P!nksim coz my family sais it's like i am preaching a religion!
Oh hey how about her finding Linda Perry and writing an album with her, when everyone was like Who is Linda, why are you working with that one hit wonder? And after her success some other artists started working with her too!
How about her live vocals being a defining moment for Adele? (25.000 000 albums sold)
And how about stil having a carreer after almost 15 years, and slaying without any effort and breaking records during her tours?
OK THANK YOU VERY MUCH
bye
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What a meltdown.
None of Pink songs are iconic. Some have been successful but that just ends there. SW and GTPS? Linda Perry had a career before Pink, not to mention it was Linda herself who first approached Aguilera (said by herself on Aguilera's BTM) not the other way around. However, we could say the same about Aguilera making Sia mainstream. So, your point is invalid. Oh, and Pink's Grammy performance is memorable but never iconic.
What does Adele's 21 success have to do with Pink? As I stated before, even though Pink has lately experienced bigger success than Britney, Beyoncé and Christina, she fails to reach their status. No one is saying Pink is not successful or a non-factor, cause she is not. But she doesn't suit the iconic status.
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Originally posted by Lucas32
Writing half an essay is not gonna give you any credibility.
The fact that you think Xtina,an artist whose latest music failed to reach any commercial success whatsoever is more relevant than P!nk,an artist who will have her third consecutive 6 million seller by the end of the year, who is on another soon to be 200m + worlwide tour is nothing but delusional.
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I already answered you this in my last reply:
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I have never said she is currently getting more success than Pink, or the other two. But iconic status takes more than only sales.
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Pink is also experiencing bigger success than Britney. Does that make Pink more iconic than Britney? There are more things involved in being an icon than just album/single sales and tour grosses. There are a lot of icons and legends from other decades who were not the most successful acts of their decades yet they all are considered icons and legends. That automatically discredits your flawed logic.
You just seem to be a closed minded and deluded stan that automatically discredits any opinion that goes against yours, without even analyze so I won't loose more time with you.
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P!nk and Kelly are the most continually successful no doubt. But Christina made more of a ruckus back in the day so shes the most "iconic" of the bunch. Whatever that even amounts to in the end is debatable.
I guess one could argue Avril was iconic for her first album but I mean now when you think of Avril she was just more of a flash in the pan, even though one could think of Christina as only having been genuinely popular like 10 years ago shes at least remained a tabloid celebrity so shes in public consciousness. Avril just kind of fell off totally but keeps making music anyway.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Rolland
What a meltdown.
None of Pink songs are iconic. Some have been successful but that just ends there. SW and GTPS? Linda Perry had a career before Pink, not to mention it was Linda herself who first approached Aguilera (said by herself on Aguilera's BTM) not the other way around. However, we could say the same about Aguilera making Sia mainstream. So, your point is invalid. Oh, and Pink's Grammy performance is memorable but never iconic.
What does Adele's 21 success have to do with Pink? As I stated before, even though Pink has lately experienced bigger success than Britney, Beyoncé and Christina, she fails to reach their status. No one is saying Pink is not successful or a non-factor, cause she is not. But she doesn't suit the iconic status.
I already answered you this in my last reply:
Pink is also experiencing bigger success than Britney. Does that make Pink more iconic than Britney? There are more things involved in being an icon than just album/single sales and tour grosses. There are a lot of icons and legends from other decades who were not the most successful acts of their decades yet they all are considered icons and legends. That automatically discredits your flawed logic.
You just seem to be a closed minded and deluded stan that automatically discredits any opinion that goes against yours, without even analyze so I won't loose more time with you.
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It wasn't a meltdown, it was more like a rant, i guess? i don't know!
But honestly you are saying all these things, but if you are denying all this being iconic than honestly Xtina isn't iconic at all either! And tbh everyone's fave is iconic to them! Just like you think Xtina is iconic, i think P!nk is iconic, you can bring receipts on why she is iconic, i can deny them with just one phrase or say oh not it wasn't iconic it was just memorable! (like you just did) but lucky for you I love Xtina and if you saw my post before you wouldn't call me a deluded stan coz my opinion was P!nk = Xtina >>>>> Kelly = Avril
See I prefer listening to critics and professionals? You should try it sometimes, it's nice. You guys for some reason can't find much to hate on her, so you have created this world around you where she is A NON FACTOR (which is ironic again coz while you say commercial success is not important, it still proves that people are interested in her and her music) I mean selling 5.3 million albums in a year pretty much means that you are NOT a non factor.
Of course she never showed her p**** in public, she never went to rehab, never had plastic surgery, didn't get arrested, isn't looking for attention so excuse her for not having scandals around her in the news, in gossip magazines etc!
The only times she gets in magazines is when she does something good like charity, helping people, her performances (that CNN article after the AMAs), for her record breaking tours, for being fit, and a strong woman etc etc!
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