Originally posted by satellites.™ Timberlake opened with a million without a hit single just recently.

Originally posted by Gangsta4alife not really if your selling albums now without hits in this musical climate, you will do just fine into the future. And just because you have hit singles doesn't mean you won't struggle to move units in the future as well.

Originally posted by satellites.™ Do you think she could sell albums without the MULTIPLE worldwide smash singles to support her?

Could most artists? I'm not exactly sure what your point is. Singles help sell albums. That's true for most artists, especially young pop acts such as Rihanna. The only people who can sell millions of albums without hits are more established artists, and typically artists who are outside of the pop/dance-pop genre. Of course there are exceptions.

Having said that, I don't see one as being better than the other. In fact I'd say Rihanna is an example of someone who is quite consistent in both single and album sales. The fact that all her albums since A Girl Like Me have gone Platinum is an impressive feat for any artist.

Originally posted by satellites.™ 4 for instance has no hit singles and it still sold 2.1 million worldwide by the end of 2011. Had she actually has a chart hit or two, it probably would have been closer to 4 million.

4 was expertly promoted. I mean, Beyonce headlined Glastonbury for crying out loud. She appeared on a string of several other of high profile events, including Oprah's finale, American Idol finale, Billboard Awards (where she received the highest honor). She not ONLY performed Run The World during her promo run, but 1+1 and BTINH, giving a feel for the ENTIRE BODY OF WORK. She did Love On Top at the VMAs and (if I'm not mistaken) Countdown was televised on Jimmy Kimmel and five songs got music videos (not including the I Was Here special vid or Dance For You, cuz that's not on the standard edition).

2.1 million without a huge single is nothing to scoff at, but at the same time, it's not like she did NOTHING. Beyonce was everywhere.

HAD she had hits, yes, the album would have done ridiculously better, but if that's the argument, then technically that makes Beyonce a singles driven artist as well, if we're being relative, comparing 4 to DIL, Bday and IASF.

What is the point you're trying to make?

Originally posted by Gangsta4alife I like rihanna and all but I kinda feel the same about her not being too passionate about her music

Originally posted by i spit on haters Yup. It's one of the many aspects that makes them commercial. But I think some (Rihanna + Katy) are more singles driven than others.

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It's what happens when your album is that strong. Every song on Rih's album has the capability of becoming a single. It always fulfills some sort of niche, may it be Pop, Dance, Reggae, Urban, etc.

Originally posted by BSNMology 4 was expertly promoted. I mean, Beyonce headlined Glastonbury for crying out loud. She appeared on a string of several other of high profile events, including Oprah's finale, American Idol finale, Billboard Awards (where she received the highest honor). She not ONLY performed Run The World during her promo run, but 1+1 and BTINH, giving a feel for the ENTIRE BODY OF WORK. She did Love On Top at the VMAs and (if I'm not mistaken) Countdown was televised on Jimmy Kimmel and five songs got music videos (not including the I Was Here special vid or Dance For You, cuz that's not on the standard edition). 2.1 million without a huge single is nothing to scoff at, but at the same time, it's not like she did NOTHING. Beyonce was everywhere. HAD she had hits, yes, the album would have done ridiculously better, but if that's the argument, then technically that makes Beyonce a singles driven artist as well, if we're being relative, comparing 4 to DIL, Bday and IASF. What is the point you're trying to make?

Originally posted by Fanik Mine? Back To December?

Originally posted by BSNMology 4 was expertly promoted. I mean, Beyonce headlined Glastonbury for crying out loud. She appeared on a string of several other of high profile events, including Oprah's finale, American Idol finale, Billboard Awards (where she received the highest honor). She not ONLY performed Run The World during her promo run, but 1+1 and BTINH, giving a feel for the ENTIRE BODY OF WORK. She did Love On Top at the VMAs and (if I'm not mistaken) Countdown was televised on Jimmy Kimmel and five songs got music videos (not including the I Was Here special vid or Dance For You, cuz that's not on the standard edition). 2.1 million without a huge single is nothing to scoff at, but at the same time, it's not like she did NOTHING. Beyonce was everywhere. HAD she had hits, yes, the album would have done ridiculously better, but if that's the argument, then technically that makes Beyonce a singles driven artist as well, if we're being relative, comparing 4 to DIL, Bday and IASF. What is the point you're trying to make?

Rihanna crossed the 3 milllion line with UA in 15 weeks, YEARS less than other girls, including Beyonce. I don't understand the Hive's logic with their attempts at shading Rih for being a singles driven artist when she's outselling many favs' albums, their included.

Originally posted by BSNMology HAD she had hits, yes, the album would have done ridiculously better, but if that's the argument, then technically that makes Beyonce a singles driven artist as well, if we're being relative, comparing 4 to DIL, Bday and IASF.

Originally posted by BSNMology 4 was expertly promoted. I mean, Beyonce headlined Glastonbury for crying out loud. She appeared on a string of several other of high profile events, including Oprah's finale, American Idol finale, Billboard Awards (where she received the highest honor). She not ONLY performed Run The World during her promo run, but 1+1 and BTINH, giving a feel for the ENTIRE BODY OF WORK. She did Love On Top at the VMAs and (if I'm not mistaken) Countdown was televised on Jimmy Kimmel and five songs got music videos (not including the I Was Here special vid or Dance For You, cuz that's not on the standard edition). 2.1 million without a huge single is nothing to scoff at, but at the same time, it's not like she did NOTHING. Beyonce was everywhere. HAD she had hits, yes, the album would have done ridiculously better, but if that's the argument, then technically that makes Beyonce a singles driven artist as well, if we're being relative, comparing 4 to DIL, Bday and IASF. What is the point you're trying to make?

Originally posted by BSNMology 4 was expertly promoted. I mean, Beyonce headlined Glastonbury for crying out loud. She appeared on a string of several other of high profile events, including Oprah's finale, American Idol finale, Billboard Awards (where she received the highest honor). She not ONLY performed Run The World during her promo run, but 1+1 and BTINH, giving a feel for the ENTIRE BODY OF WORK. She did Love On Top at the VMAs and (if I'm not mistaken) Countdown was televised on Jimmy Kimmel and five songs got music videos (not including the I Was Here special vid or Dance For You, cuz that's not on the standard edition). 2.1 million without a huge single is nothing to scoff at, but at the same time, it's not like she did NOTHING. Beyonce was everywhere. HAD she had hits, yes, the album would have done ridiculously better, but if that's the argument, then technically that makes Beyonce a singles driven artist as well, if we're being relative, comparing 4 to DIL, Bday and IASF. What is the point you're trying to make?

Originally posted by muddysquirrel You really call those hits? Medium sized success at best.

Originally posted by Bey'Knight well where would the passion come from? Everybody has talent, hers just arent related to music at all, Instead of honing her craft, she's more interested in playing up her bad gal image on social media

Originally posted by Desert Rain Glasto is local to the UK where she did quite well. You forget, all this promo was for RUN THE WORLD, a very poor choice for a lead single. Had it been for LoT or End Of Time things would be different. Countdown was released in October, the video came a week later, the Fallon performance was more than a month after. Love On Top was released two weeks after the VMA performance and a whole month BEFORE the video came out. All in all, the 4 era was horribly mismanaged. With B'Day, she sold 3-4 million before Irreplaceable pushed it towards 7 million. IASF was very consistent throughout its run past 7 million due to the regular singles.

Originally posted by rihannabiggestfan Imagine if Rihanna did promo like in the 4 era, slay Unapologetic still breezed by 3m WW even with minimal promo

Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction Rihanna crossed the 3 milllion line with UA in 15 weeks, YEARS less than other girls, including Beyonce. I don't understand the Hive's logic with their attempts at shading Rih for being a singles driven artist when she's outselling many favs' albums, their included.