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Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (November 7-14, 2012)
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One More Night made so much people pressed.
And mastamaind, OMG is getting a lot of views lately.
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Originally posted by atrlster
Oh I thought you had modern examples in mind. That Paula Abdul thing was before they used BDS and Soundscan right? So things were pretty inaccurate back then. I know songs can get stuck at #2 and stuff nowadays stuff like with Bad Romance. And I know at the end of the day, they have to go by the hard numbers, but this seems like the most extreme example I've seen of the #1 song really lacking the cultural impact of a #2. The songs that spend a long time at #1 too usually can be compared. And songs like Call Me Maybe, Somebody That I Used To Know, and We Are Young are in a different class. One More Night doesnt fit in at all.
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And we already know that the Billboard chart doesn't measure cultural impact (and there's no real system to monitor that sort of popularity - YouTube/VEVO comes close I suppose), and we also know radio hurt "Gangnam Style" and that's why it failed to get the #1. There's really no conspiracy theory here. If OMN was some random song by some random artist, then I would be more shocked, but this is Maroon 5. "Moves Like Jagger" and "Payphone" were huge radio hits, and radio feels the need to support them, even if it's for a song like OMN.
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Originally posted by I'mRihannaFan
One More Night made so much people pressed.
And mastamaind, OMG is getting a lot of views lately.
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For an 8-week chart topper those numbers are not reasonable.
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11 - 3,063,000 - SOME NIGHTS - Fun.
Will drag Bieber down to #11 on the next update 
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Also:
Payphone
Released 7 months ago
Peak position: #2
YouTube MV + Lyric video views: 165,775,635 views
One More Night
Released 5 months ago
Peak position: #1 x 8 weeks (????)
YouTube MV + Lyric video views: 80,832,133 (Why?)
Can't you see the pattern here?
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Originally posted by Mastamaind
Also:
Payphone
Released 7 months ago
Peak position: #2
YouTube MV + Lyric video views: 165,775,635 views
One More Night
Released 5 months ago
Peak position: #1 x 8 weeks (????)
YouTube MV + Lyric video views: 80,832,133 (Why?)
Can't you see the pattern here?
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Payphone was a massive hit worldwide, One More Night wasn't as massive in as many countries. Waka Waka shows that worldwide success can do a LOT for a music video.
Youtube views mean nothing really. Rain Over Me was definitely in no way a bigger hit than Give Me Everything. On VEVO Beez in the Trap is only like 15 million views behind Starships.
One More Night is largely appealing to Adult Contemporary audiences, who probably don't use Youtube as much as much. Payphone also has Wiz Khalifa on, who's big on Youtube.
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It would have been embarrassing for Maroon 5 to have been overcome by a foreign language speaker after the massive radio success their two previous single releases.
After all, radio spins are undeniably the most accurate portrayal of overall popularity. Fan bases can't meddle with those statistics after all, like they do with iTunes.
The Hot 100 might as well revert to being solely an airplay chart, since it is, after all, the truest barometer of success that we can possibly have.
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I've never seen the OMN video 
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Originally posted by Tsuko
(...) Youtube views mean nothing really. Rain Over Me was definitely in no way a bigger hit than Give Me Everything.
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You clearly haven't realized that regardless of the US, 'Rain Over me' was a worldwide hit, right?
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Originally posted by Tsuko
On VEVO Beez in the Trap is only like 15 million views behind Starships.
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You haven't realized either there are three 'Starships' lyric videos that total 109 million views? That plus the MV video views total 201 million views.
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Originally posted by Tsuko
One More Night is largely appealing to Adult Contemporary audiences, who probably don't use Youtube as much as much. Payphone also has Wiz Khalifa on, who's big on Youtube.
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Lie, OMN is not even Top10 in Adult Contemporary, it's #1 in Adult Pop but Train is #4 in Adult Pop, and it's #24 in the Hot 100, so whatever.
As an 8-week chart topper, the song just can't have the views it has and it just can't be the exception of the year supposedly topping 'Gangnam Style' with 722,062,963 views.
Also, YouTube views mean nothing?
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Originally posted by Mastamaind
To make my point a little further here's a look at the YouTube views of 2012's #1 singles:
LMFAO - Sexy And I Know It 251,923,732 views #1 x 2 weeks
Rihanna ft. Calvin Harris - We Found Love 220,297,899 views #1 x 10 weeks
Adele - Set Fire To The Rain Live Video: 56,344,086 views + Lyric video: 211,475,827 views #1 x 2 weeks
Kelly Clarkson - Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) Video: 57,824,056 views + Lyric video: 5,179,378 #1 x 3 weeks (It doesn't have a lot of views but it didn't top the charts for 8 weeks)
Katy Perry - Part Of Me 113,007,987 views #1 x 1 week
Fun ft. Janelle Monáe - We Are Young 149,611,503 views #1 x 6 weeks
Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe 332,263,948 views #1 x 9 weeks
Flo Rida - Whistle 150,288,672 views #1 x 2 weeks
Taylor Swift - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together 76,256,794 views *Released 2 months ago* #1 x 3 weeks
Maroon 5 - One More Night Video: 64,800,947 views Lyric video: 16,018,363 views #1 x 8 weeks? Fabricated #1
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