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Discussion: Is Pink the most consistent artist of 2000s?
Member Since: 4/29/2012
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Originally posted by EnoughSaid
How are people sitting here talking about P!nk's lact of impact? She's a great touring artist, a consistent seller who makes great music and is probably the most respected woman in pop music. When P!nk has an opinion people actually take it in where they would just scoff at another pop star trying to preach and beyond silly stan wars the general public really dig her, I have yet to see somebody say they dislike her or her music. She just bagged a deal with L'Oreal and has Eminem willing to be on her album which will probably slay so damn hard.
Her Glitter In the Air performance at the Grammys alone defecates on most of our favs.
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Educate them 
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Originally posted by Underdogs
You seriously don't know what the 2000s mean?
It does not, actually. If album sales have dropped since 2003; single sales have increased even more rapidly. At least Trouble went Top 10 on the United World Chart  Did any single from '4'? Nope.
And P!nk also had a moderately successful tour across Europe with 'Try This'. |
This first definition says "the first decade of the 3rd millenium" 
And 2.7m(and counting) is much more impressive without any hit and in 2011 than 3.5m with a WW Top 10 in 2003 is. And you say moderately successful tour in Europe while Bey did T In The Park, Glastonbury, Roseland, A Night With Beyonce in France & Revel.
And I'm almost sure 3.5m isnt even accurate seeing as she's certified platinum in the US with sales of less than 750k.
Edit: She's also a one-trick pony. Her and Kelly Clarkson damn near have the same sound these days. While I did stan for RYG her new single is basically a re-hash of it.
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Originally posted by Underdogs
Maybe she's not HUGE in the US. In Canada, Oceania, Europe etc...definitely.
Having said that; she has sold a decent amount of records in the US. Has 12 Top 10 hits.
To answer your question correctly; P!nk has never been that huge but her music always has been |
I see, thank you 
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Originally posted by csybeyking
This first definition says "the first decade of the 3rd millenium"
And 2.7m(and counting) is much more impressive without any hit and in 2011 than 3.5m with a WW Top 10 in 2003 is. And you say moderately successful tour in Europe while Bey did T In The Park, Glastonbury, Roseland, A Night With Beyonce in France & Revel.
And I'm almost sure 3.5m isnt even accurate seeing as she's certified platinum in the US with sales of less than 750k. |
The album has sold over 900k in the us, over 1 million in aus, and around 300k in the uk, it has to be atleast over the 3 million.
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Originally posted by ryanpittman97
The album has sold over 900k in the us, over 1 million in aus, and around 300k in the uk, it has to be atleast over the 3 million.
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A Billboard article has it at 724k...Its only 2x plat in Australia which is 140k and the UK has it at 450k...Canada platinum is 100k. And Germany platinum in 200k. Since the IFPI gave her a platinum cert I'll just say 1 million for the rest of Europe.
So about 2.7 million, no?
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Member Since: 5/15/2012
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Originally posted by csybeyking
This first definition says "the first decade of the 3rd millenium"
And 2.7m(and counting) is much more impressive without any hit and in 2011 than 3.5m with a WW Top 10 in 2003 is. And you say moderately successful tour in Europe while Bey did T In The Park, Glastonbury, Roseland, A Night With Beyonce in France & Revel.
And I'm almost sure 3.5m isnt even accurate seeing as she's certified platinum in the US with sales of less than 750k.
Edit: She's also a one-trick pony. Her and Kelly Clarkson damn near have the same sound these days. While I did stan for RYG her new single is basically a re-hash of it. |
2000s can refer to all those things 
And why do you say 'sold 2.7 without a hit' like that's a good thing?  Not having a hit is never a good thing. She promoted the **** out of RTW and even made like a 100 videos. The public just wasn't here for it.
Having a hit AND selling more albums >>>> NOT having a hit a selling LESS albums.
And you might like viewing the 'artists who just can't reinvent themselves' to see who's really the one-trick pony.
RYG and Blow Me sound nothing alike. They aren't even from the same producers. They aren't even the same genre, i'd say.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by csybeyking
A Billboard article has it at 724k...Its only 2x plat in Australia which is 140k and the UK has it at 450k...Canada platinum is 100k. And Germany platinum in 200k. Since the IFPI gave her a platinum cert I'll just say 1 million for the rest of Europe.
So about 2.7 million, no?
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Well sources say the album has sold over 3 million, which is good for a greatest hits album, just imagine how much her new album will sell 
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Oh no  .
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Originally posted by Underdogs
Dear Mr President made headlines across the world, when I'm Not Dead was released. It made headlines again when P!nk got booed performing it near Washington DC. Every talked about how ballsy the song was. It went on to sell a million copies WW without being released in major markets. To this day, P!nk is asked about that song in every interview she does. Bette Midler structured her speech around that song when presented the Human Rights Award to Pink. There's a live performance of that song, where people are crying in the audience.
Stupid Girls also made news around the world. A very recent example of it's impact is when CNN played it before a story on Sarah Palin, whose policies P!nk has very openly condemned. Oprah talked to P!nk about that song for a whole hour on her show.
Family Portrait. Under 'Cultural Impact' on Wikipedia: "According to Pink's father, James Moore Jr., during an E! Entertainment's E! True Hollywood Story, this song has been unofficially named the national anthem for young kids who have been through the harsh effects of divorce of their parents: "I have got letters from parents thanking us from this song." The song, which she wrote and composed in collaboration with Scott Storch, was still going strong as of late April of 2012, with millions of hits on YouTube and millions of albums sold from Missundaztood. "It took me a while to listen to 'Family Portrait' without getting emotional," Pink's mother told E! True Hollywood Story. Although the song addresses how Pink struggled through her parents's divorce, it is also addressed to kids, to encourage them to talk with their parents about how they feel about their divorce."
This was also really the first time a pop girl had written such a personal song in the 2000s. After that, a lot people started doing similar stuff.
It's so mind-boggling when ATRL claims that P!nk has had no cultural Impact; while a song like say..Umbrella has. 
This reviewer sums it up perfectly... "If, for a brief moment around the turn of the millenium, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, and yes, Jessica Simpson were supposed to be our Blonde Pop Holy Trinity, Pink was Mary Magdalene, staring sarcastically out at the world over her aviator sunglasses."
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Such a great post
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Oh Lord, how did this stupid fight happen?
And saying P!nk has only obsessed fans in Australia is just so wrong 
I hate how everybody always underestimates her power in Europe, she is HUGE here, esp. in the German speaking countries.
P!nk & Beyoncé are both the most consistant sellers so far, and don't forget Rihanna.. she is selling quite well too since her debut.
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yeah, i think so. and i'm sad that try this underperformed; although, it did go platinum and got her a solo grammy for trouble, followed by a very successful world tour... so, it wasn't really that unsuccessful of en era. also, it's one of her strongest albums, it's my #2 pink album, #1 bein missundaztood; and it is severely underrated -- just like her.
and lack of impact? other artists LITERALLY copied her after missundaztood. she does have an impact. she's always been very consistent and her tours are always sold out. people get the whole nine yards with her: artistry, real singing and real entertainment. and now it looks like the US is catching back on.
it's nice to see that staying true to yourself, standing up for your beliefs and trying to be the best version of yourself is paying off so well. she's a true role model and i hope she stays in the business and keeps on setting trends for decades to come.
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I love P!nk and I agree that she is very consistent.
I would say that Britney Spears is the most consistent artist of the 2000's. She's never had a flop album and all of her albums deliver great pop music and get good reviews. While some of her singles do better than others, it's rare that she has a total flop and she always does well on radio.
Her tours are very successful. Even the slightly muted success of The Femme Fatale Tour wasn't too bad and let's face it - Britney Spears is her haters guilty pleasure.
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P!nk deserves credit for remaining successful longer than most pop stars. P!nk was the chick that really ignited the pop/rock era of the 2000s, so it's wrong to dismiss her contributions. Try This was a bump in the road for her, but who doesn't have bumps in the road? She managed to bounce back commercially. Not many people are able to do that after a slump.
People don't need to get 'hype' for P!nk when she has people still supporting her music after all these years.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
P!nk deserves credit for remaining successful longer than most pop stars. P!nk was the chick that really ignited the pop/rock era of the 2000s, so it's wrong to dismiss her contributions. Try This was a bump in the road for her, but who doesn't have bumps in the road? She managed to bounce back commercially. Not many people are able to do that after a slump.
People don't need to get 'hype' for P!nk when she has people still supporting her music after all these years.
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Well said
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She's one of the most, but I believe Bey is the most
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You also got to remember that Pink has released 5 full studio albums + a GHs CD and is on her way to releasing a 6th full studio album. And she's had only 1 underperforming album out of 6. Beyonce, which is the second most brought-up person in this thread, has released only 4 albums so far and one of them flopped. That's 25% rate of floppage, while Pink has a 16% rate of underperformance
and M!ssundaztood, I'm Not Dead and Funhouse are all within the top 10 best-selling albums released in 2011, 2006 and 2008 respectively. That's popularity my darlings. oh and I believe is GHSF is within the top 20 of 2010. And its a GHs album.
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
You also got to remember that Pink has released 5 full studio albums + a GHs CD and is on her way to releasing a 6th full studio album. And she's had only 1 underperforming album out of 6. Beyonce, which is the second most brought-up person in this thread, has released only 4 albums so far and one of them flopped. That's 25% rate of floppage, while Pink has a 16% rate of underperformance |
If you're talking about 4....4 didn't flop in the least.
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Member Since: 9/11/2010
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Originally posted by CaptainMusic
So you think her next album will sell 3 million in the US alone?
Not a chance. 
FF is Britney's first Flop album anyway whereas P!nk has had 2 with a less amount of albums. If anyone needs to sit It's you. |
Okay. Lets get ****in real here. We can try and say "Oh P!nk's flop album sold more than Britney's and Bey's" but the fact is, they were released in 2 completely different sales climates.
So lets compare a REALLY sad fact here. Greatest Hits...So Far!, which is a hits collection in the digital era, has sold more than Femme Fatale, and 4. At least 4 has the excuse of "flop" singles, what is FF's excuse? I even went to that concert and the energy was intense. Why did no one buy it? She had 2 big #1's off of that album and 2 other singles. You can say she "hasn't had any impact", but clearly she has if people are willing to shell out money to buy a collection of her hits. People apparently couldn't pull out less cash to buy FF. Which in most areas was cheaper.
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Member Since: 9/11/2010
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
P!nk deserves credit for remaining successful longer than most pop stars. P!nk was the chick that really ignited the pop/rock era of the 2000s, so it's wrong to dismiss her contributions. Try This was a bump in the road for her, but who doesn't have bumps in the road? She managed to bounce back commercially. Not many people are able to do that after a slump.
People don't need to get 'hype' for P!nk when she has people still supporting her music after all these years.
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Exactly! A lot of big acts hit "bumps in the road". Several of them had commercial comebacks too, but how many of those comebacks only lasted maybe 1-2 albums? Her string of success has been going on since 2007, which is a longer stretch than her first (2000-2003)
OH and I would like to add that P!nk, Britney & Beyonce have all been the most consistent. Not just sales wise, but musically as well. They all know seem to know who they are and what kind of artist they are. Which is probably why they've been the most consistent. They've evolved, but never too drastically for someone to throw them aside.
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