Im sorry but I think it does, If u look at the reaction the black community is having regarding him coming out I think it should be discussed and lets face it with songs like this...
Still being used in black clubs and parties regularly today it shows that the black community is still more homophobic than others. Im not saying this represents the whole community , that would be stupid but we can't deny this...
That song isn't a good example of the point you're trying to make...a song with homophobic references in it don't mean the community that song is marketed to is entirely homophobic...plus Caribbeans are a lot less accepting of homosexuals then African Americans, to the point where you can be killed in Jamaica just for being gay
The ONLY evidence you used that could possibly SUPPORT the idea that the black community to so terribly more homophobic than the rest of America were those phrases. Nothing else in your post supported that idea, therefore I didn't address it. Gay marriage, and closeted men and HIV/AIDS are not necessarily an issue directly related to homophobia in the black community. Comprehension was had, but not everything you mentioned was relevant.
FAIL. Geezus was directly endorsing the claim the homophobia is substantially worse in the black community, and he brought up those phrases to support that claim. Well no **** that the slurs I mentioned weren't used the way you described, I wasn't saying they were; I was drawing a COMPARISON dear, and showing that homosexually unfriendly phrases and words have been coined by several different kinds of people, and that that phrases and words are NOT evidence of a worse case of homophobia. And sorry to disappoint, but I have been arguing and discrediting against allegations made in this thread since my entrance, this is called refuting, not victimizing. Webster is your friend. You LOSE, good day sir.
Your anger is such a cackle.
1. He wasn't the only one who brought up the fact that homophobia in the black community is very prominent. And he surely won't be the last until certain (see how I used the word certain? It's quite useful.) black people stop acting ignorant.
2. Your comparison was fraudulent and lacked the necessary evidence to counteract his argument.
3. Those homosexually charged slurs you brought up weren't created by the black gay community which was his main argument.
4. You have been arguing that homophobia isn't bad in the black community and the topic should pretty much be avoided. But, seeing as that isn't the point of the thread you obviously need to go back and read.
Now that you have been corrected. Have a nice day and a beautiful 4th of July.
FBI statistics offer an answer. The following table shows offender rates by race for designated hate crimes committed against homosexuals as a percentage of the white (including Hispanic) offender rate, so anything over 100% indicates a higher propensity for gay bashing than whites display and anything under 100% shows less of one:
Race Rate
Black 288%
White 100%
American Indian 66%
Asian/P.I. 30%
Firstly, DEATH at you linking to a site that seems to have quite a casual and comfortable relationship with racism, and also proudly endorses and advocates stereotypes, which does society no good.
Secondly, they intentionally misconstrued the information into what they wanted to show people. What is really is:
Hate crime statistics, 2010
Anti-male homosexual: white-357 crimes, black-199 crimes, American Indian- 1 crime, Asian-6 crimes
Anti-female homosexual: white-78, black-32, American Indian-0, Asian-1
Anti homosexual: white-178, black-76, American Indian-4, Asian-5
Anti bisexual: white-15, black-1, American Indian-0, Asian-0
And these are only instance of homophobic that were taken up by law enforcement, and one must also consider the way law enforcement decides to file crimes.
I don't know if it's just me, but it seems that some people in here forget there are in fact gay black people. You complain about black people attacking the gays, but imagine how it is for one who is both gay and black. Some of us have to put up with that **** on a daily basis.
You're gay, so we hate you. You're black, so we hate you. People love to believe gay racists don't exist, but that's far from the truth. Just because you're a minority doesn't mean you're automatically understanding of other minorities - just look at the title of this thread.
I mean, there's no middle ground on either side with lots of people in both groups. From getting jumped, to being disowned, to getting kicked out (it happens with other people, but it's probably a lot more prevalent in the black community) and not being embraced by the gay community, the ****'s hard. Where do you go when no accepts you?
Well anyway, that whole Prop 8 mess seems to have made the divided amongst blacks and gays even larger. Some work is needed there.
Your anger is such a cackle.
1. He wasn't the only one who brought up the fact that homophobia in the black community is very prominent. And he surely won't be the last until certain (see how I used the word certain? It's quite useful.) black people stop acting ignorant.
2. Your comparison was fraudulent and lacked the necessary evidence to counteract his argument.
3. Those homosexually charged slurs you brought up weren't created by the black gay community which was his main argument.
4. You have been arguing that homophobia isn't bad in the black community and the topic should pretty much be avoided. But, seeing as that isn't the point of the thread you obviously need to go back and read.
Now that you have been corrected. Have a nice day and a beautiful 4th of July.
lajrh;vsjk Anger? LOL no dear. Anyway
Why, you're very observant. Yes, he wasn't the only person saying the things he said, but it's without basis is what I'm saying. Homophobia is prominent everywhere, and all of it's perpetrators should lay off the ignorance. My comparison was perfectly adequate, and showed that homosexually insensitive words cannot be used as an indication of a worse homophobia, which is what it was meant to do, which makes it a successful comparison. His main argument was certainly not what you say, especially since he never even addressed the fact that I mentioned those slurs, only you did so. And even if he did try to make that point, it would not have mattered, because that was not the purpose for which I mentioned them. 4, that is not my point, not even remotely, and I'm quite sure you know that that is not my point. I see that you have to whip up false oppositional argument to have something to make a legit comment against. But I will say it again, because you can only pretend to be clueless for so long: Homophobia is bad in the black community; it is just as bad in the black community as it is in the larger society of America, not outrageously worse, as other routinely say. Discussing homophobia in the black community is fine, portraying homophobia in the black community as much more rampant and nasty than the greater country is not. End point. You corrected no one, and you know this.
I don't know if it's just me, but it seems that some people in here forget there are in fact gay black people. You complain about black people attacking the gays, but imagine how it is for one who is both gay and black. Some of us have to put up with that **** on a daily basis.
You're gay, so we hate you. You're black, so we hate you. People love to believe gay racists don't exist, but that's far from the truth. Just because you're a minority doesn't mean you're automatically understanding of other minorities - just look at the title of this thread.
I mean, there's no middle ground on either side with lots of people in both groups. From getting jumped, to being disowned, to getting kicked out (it happens with other people, but it's probably a lot more prevalent in the black community) and not being embraced by the gay community, the ****'s hard. Where do you go when no accepts you?
Well anyway, that whole Prop 8 mess seems to have made the divided amongst blacks and gays even larger. Some work is needed there.
I don't know if it's just me, but it seems that some people in here forget there are in fact gay black people. You complain about black people attacking the gays, but imagine how it is for one who is both gay and black. Some of us have to put up with that **** on a daily basis.
You're gay, so we hate you. You're black, so we hate you. People love to believe gay racists don't exist, but that's far from the truth. Just because you're a minority doesn't mean you're automatically understanding of other minorities - just look at the title of this thread.
I mean, there's no middle ground on either side with lots of people in both groups. From getting jumped, to being disowned, to getting kicked out (it happens with other people, but it's probably a lot more prevalent in the black community) and not being embraced by the gay community, the ****'s hard. Where do you go when no accepts you?
Well anyway, that whole Prop 8 mess seems to have made the divided amongst blacks and gays even larger. Some work is needed there.
Yeah, that was an argument I was trying to make to someone who lives in England. They just didn't understand that the black and gay experience in America is more difficult than the gay experience alone.
Firstly, DEATH at you linking to a site that seems to have quite a casual and comfortable relationship with racism, and also proudly endorses and advocates stereotypes, which does society no good.
Secondly, they intentionally misconstrued the information into what they wanted to show people. What is really is:
Hate crime statistics, 2010
Anti-male homosexual: white-357 crimes, black-199 crimes, American Indian- 1 crime, Asian-6 crimes
Anti-female homosexual: white-78, black-32, American Indian-0, Asian-1
Anti homosexual: white-178, black-76, American Indian-4, Asian-5
Anti bisexual: white-15, black-1, American Indian-0, Asian-0
And these are only instance of homophobic that were taken up by law enforcement, and one must also consider the way law enforcement decides to file crimes.
No, you misunderstood the statistics presented in the information. They are saying that blacks are the most common gay offenders, not victims like this information is presenting.